Showing posts with label paypal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label paypal. Show all posts

Directory submission service scam

Sometimes I don't have the time to do my own submissions but this time I was just lured by the fact that 1500 submissions to free directories would only cost me $20 ; This $20 would save me lots of time so I could focus on other stuff that I had neglected recently ... the deal was spotted on DP and there was no way I would miss it.

The story
The thread was created by TheZer0Group and was new (5-10 posts), so I thought to myself that the guy is a new kid on the block so he is offering this nice deal in order to get some customers that will leave a good comment on the thread. So without wasting any time I send the money and the details of my submission. The thread started to gather some questions from potential buyers but the answers coming to think about it did seem professional answers but I did not suspect anything at the time.

The story continues with one day passing and no sign of any submission emails from any free directory. I usually setup email filters on gmail for each submission that I do so I can easily spot the progress at any time; and so I did for this project. The next day I send the guy a reminder PM that I did not see anything and he confirmed that my submission order was next in line ... actually an hour later I did receive about 7-8 email confirmations refering to the submission in question ... so this together with the fact in the thread it was mentioned that the orders will not be done all at one shot help me rest assured that everything was going OK.

Next day I did not receive any email confirmations so I decided to send him a second reminder that read that if he did not intend to do any more submissions he should refund my money. Without answering my PM he probably did a few submissions more, since later on I did receive a few confirmations of submission. I was assured again that maybe I had mistaken the guy for a fake.

The following two days I did not see any confirmation action in my email and I send a couple of reminders by PM to theZeroGroup ... but I was too busy running other choirs to notice that I did not receive any answer. The fifth day though, I was sure that there was not going to be any more submissions and that I had probably lost $20.

I posted a message on the thread asking if other customers had there orders completed and people started slowly realizing that this was a scam.

Disputing the service on Paypal
My immediate reaction was to start a dispute on paypal and see if I could get a refund from that scum of a person. On the paypal dispute form mentioned that the service was incomplete and chose the category to be services, and added as reference the thread in DP and mentioned that I did try to get in contact with this person but without any success ...

A few minutes later I did receive what seems like an automated response

Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a refund.
So no refund for quality of goods received, that is what a bad service amounts to.

The moral of the story
If it sounds too good to be true it probably is (as ishan mentioned on the thread). One more thing I learned from this is paypal does protect the seller of services and we should be aware of this when paying for services through paypal.

I should close this by saying that the details of this person (as paypal has them recorded) are:

Name: William Jones (unverified)
Email: williamindia @ safe-mail.net
I doubt that he uses this email in general and I doubt that this is his name. But who knows maybe someone knows a little something about this person ... or maybe he tries to pull this off again under the same personal details ...


Make money paypal ?

Lately there has been lots of searches for make money paypal that end up here on this blog. Google send me this traffic probably due to an earlier post warning to paypal users.

Those visits got me thinking nevertheless ... how can you make money with paypal ? (assuming that is what people where searching for).

You can't!!! Paypal is just a way to send or receive money. Paypal of course makes money with every transaction but we can't unless of course its a scam.

Search the internet for paypal scam and related phrases and quickly found this post and this having people claim to be making thousands of dollars in a very simple way.

The scam goes like this:
The scummer gives you a few paypal emails that you send a few buck$ to.
You put your paypal email at the end of the list and you drop the first .
You post that message to as many places as you can and try to convince others to send money to that list ...

So not only this is a scam, and the initiators would get some $$ in their paypal accounts, people believing in it would start spamming forums and bulletin boards in order to get their message across ...

Quick reminder to unsuspected Paypal users

I have been receiving these emails lately once a day it seems.

Take a look at two of them:


Security Center


Military Grade Encryption is Only the Start

At PayPal, we want to increase your security and comfort level with every transaction. From our Buyer and Seller Protection Policies to our Verification and Reputation systems, we'll help to keep you safe.



PayPal is committed to maintaining a safe environment for its community of buyers and sellers. To protect the security of your account, PayPal employs
some of the most advanced security systems in the world and our anti-fraud teams regularly screen the PayPal system for unusual activity.

Recently, our Account Review Team identified some unusual activity in your account. In accordance with PayPal's User Agreement access to your account will be limited. This is a fraud prevention measure meant to ensure that your account is not compromised.

In order to secure your account we may require some specific information from you. We encourage you to log in by clicking on the link below and complete the requested form as soon as possible.


https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=login-run


Ignoring our request, for an extended period of time, may result in account limitations or may result in eventual account closure.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. Please understand that this is
a security measure meant to help protect you and your account.
We apologize for any inconvenience.


Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Department


PayPal Email ID PP4392
*Please do not respond to this e-mail as your reply will not be received.



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Dear valued PayPal member,

It has come to our attention that your PayPal account information needs to be updated as part of our continuing commitment to protect your account and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website. If you could please take 5-10 minutes out of your online experience and update your personal records you will not run into any future problems with the online service.

However, failure to update your records will result in account suspension. Please update your records on or before July 10, 2007.

Once you have updated your account records, your PayPal session will not be interrupted and will continue as normal.

To update your PayPal records click on the following link:
http://customer-200-79-24-3.uninet-ide.com.mx/LOGIN/update/online/



Thank you,
PayPal Update Team



The second one is easily discarded since the address it sends you to is not paypal.com

But the first one is a little hard to realize because it can trick you that the link goes to paypal.com but if you hit it takes you to paypal.us. DON'T BE FOOLED

I have received these emails from: no-replyy @ gmail.com, news @ gmail.com, account @ gmail.com, tp-verify @ gmail.com make a note of those adresses and also make a note that paypal is not supposed to be sending such emails AT ALL.

Upon receiving these emails you can send them to spoof @ paypal.com in hope that paypal can do something about them

This technique is very old and for anyone interested in reading more about it, its called phishing